I did a little further looking. While I still can't find Otto in earlier censuses, I believe I found a possible match for Thelma in the 1920 census. Her sister Mildred's surname is listed as BYOD in 1930, but I think it might actually be BYRD. In Norfolk in 1920 there is a Marshall BYRD, age 40, b. NC, wife Agatha L. age 38, b. NC and daughters Thelma, Mildred, Nellie and Crystal. The age for Thelma is a match, but Mildred is her twin, not older. I found a birth record for them for 4-Apr-1902 in Rowan Co, NC. Parents listed as Pine Marshall BYRD and Lou Agatha BURGESS.
I did find a newspaper snippet from 1920 that Mr. Otto TALLEY was visiting his parents, Mr & Mrs. C.A. TALLEY, in Albemerle, NC. I checked for them and they appear to be Charles A. TALLEY and Mary Addie TALLEY, whose maiden name was BYRD. An interesting coincidence.
1940 census for Norfolk, VA:
TALLEY, Otto age 38 b. NC, occ - pipefitter/Navy Yard
wife Elsie age 39 b. VA, occ - telephone clerk/retail store
son Otto age 15 b. VA
son George age 12 b. VA
On this census there is a column for residence in 1935. Otto Sr, Elsie and George have "same house" but Otto Jr. has Santiago, CA.
There's a Social Security Death Index listing for an Otto TALLEY b. 2-July-1901, d. Nov 1963 in VA.
There's a findagrave page for Otto B. TALLEY Sr d. Nov 1963. He is buried in Forest Lawn Cemetery in Norfolk, VA. There's also a page for an Otto B. TALLEY b. 24-Sept-1924, d. 4-July-1994. He's buried in South Lawn Memorial Cemetery, Tucson, AZ. The birth date would fit the child listed in 1940.
There's a marriage record for Otto Beckwith TALLEY, age 35, to Elsie May DALBY, age 36, on 22-May-1937 in Washington, DC. If this is the same couple as the 1940 census it would indicate that Otto was previously married and that Elsie is not the mother of the two boys.
In 1930 there is this household in Norfolk, VA:
HANKINS, Marvin age 30 b. TN
wife Thelma age 27 b. NC
stepson TALLEY, Otto B. age 5 b. VA
stepson TALLEY, George age 2 b. VA
sister-in-law BYOD, Mildred age 30 b. NC
I have not been able to find a marriage record for Otto Sr. and Thelma or any other census records for them.
hello anyone to anyone who may have information on my great great grandfather who came from the British west indies his name was George Benjamin Gittens i am probably asking a bit much as i could be going back as far as 1800 to 1900 .This person had a son who eventually came to UK married there had a family and died there .
I am the youngest grand-daughter of Murcel Dolbell Liston. I recall growing up with the middle name spelling to be "Dolbell" (however this seemed to be unclear as to its certainty). On Family Search I find that there are many misspellings of his middle name and I would like to find clear documentation that states how it is correctly spelled. I've searched for birth register's (but have been unable to locate him) and would like to find a source that would come from his parents. All "Dolbell" ancestors are listed as spelling their name "Dolbel" (in Family Search) which is also different from my understanding. I would like to correct this but want to prove my spelling with documentation that would have come from a certain source.
I've tripped across your genealogical data for Spettel family from time to time, and often see (or maybe EVERY time in YOUR databases as opposed to other organizations' data) that
with father Charles Paul Spettel 1860-1924
and mother Anna Bartl 1865-1924 .
and a son Marcus J Spettel 1898-1990 and no other children,
when Charles and Anna actually had ANOTHER child
a son Frank Joseph Spettel 1897-1990 . I.e., Frank was born before Marcus.
When your entry for Charles and Anna say "Marcus and no other children" you're leaving off Frank.
I suspect that Marcus's 19-year census reports are a little more stable over the years than Frank's, Marcus with no issue, and very little moving (maybe while off at college one time, with just about all his life in LaCrosse W.I)
Frank was in the Army from 18 or 19 years old, for 29 years, and was always somewhere else, and with 4 kids sprinkled out -- 2 in different places in the continental US, and 2 born around the Pacific Rim, when the census canvasser showed up.
Since I think the 1900 census has both the boys reported, I'll be interested in how so many of the copycat trees miss Frank. And/or who copies from whom...